How to quote for castings

The following is a detailed explanation of the offer for investment casting (typically lost wax casting)

7/22/20255 min read

Quoting for Investment Casting (typically Lost-Wax Casting) Components

Quoting for investment castings is a comprehensive process that considers multiple factors. There is no single fixed formula. The accuracy of the quote directly impacts the likelihood of securing the order and the project's profitability. Below are the key factors to consider and the general steps involved in quoting:

Core Quoting Elements

  1. Material Cost:

    • Material Type: Prices vary significantly for different metal materials (e.g., carbon steel, low-alloy steel, stainless steel, tool steel, superalloys, aluminum alloys, copper alloys, titanium alloys). The specific grade must be identified.

    • Material Unit Price: Determine the current market price of the metal material (usually per kg) through real-time inquiries or supplier quotes. Note: Prices for precious metals and alloying elements (e.g., Ni, Co, Cr, Mo, Ti) fluctuate heavily; monitor market trends.

    • Casting Gross Weight: Calculate the theoretical poured weight from the product's 3D model or drawings (includes net part weight, machining allowance, and gating/risering system weight). This is the base weight for material cost calculation.

    • Material Utilization/Process Yield Rate: This is a critical metric! (Casting Net Weight / Poured Weight) * 100%. A higher yield rate lowers the material cost allocated to each casting. Yield is heavily influenced by part geometry, cluster assembly design, and process expertise, typically ranging from 30%-60%. A reasonable yield rate must be estimated during quoting.

    • Material Losses: Melting loss, pouring residue, scrap loss, etc. (Usually factored into the yield rate or added as an extra percentage).

    • Material Cost Formula: Material Cost = Casting Gross Weight * Material Unit Price / Process Yield Rate + Material Loss Cost

  2. Manufacturing Cost:

    • Tooling Cost:

      • Pattern Die: Metal die (steel, aluminum, etc.) for producing wax patterns. Cost depends on die size, complexity, number of cavities, material, and precision requirements. This is a one-time investment, amortized over the total order quantity. Per-Piece Tooling Cost = Total Tooling Cost / Total Order Quantity

      • Wax Pattern Tooling: If the customer provides a prototype, a master pattern may be needed to replicate wax patterns, adding cost.

    • Wax Pattern Cost:

      • Wax material cost (by weight).

      • Labor, equipment depreciation, and energy for wax pattern production.

      • Labor and consumables for wax pattern assembly (attaching multiple patterns to the gating system).

    • Shell Building Cost:

      • Slurry cost (refractory materials like zircon flour, silica sol, calcined alumina, and binders).

      • Stucco cost (various grit sizes).

      • Labor, equipment depreciation, and energy for shell building.

      • Time and space costs for drying and hardening.

      • Number of Shell Layers: More layers increase cost (material, labor, time). Depends on part size, material, and requirements.

    • Dewaxing & Firing Cost:

      • Dewaxing equipment (steam or hot water autoclaves) operating costs (steam, water, electricity, environmental treatment).

      • Furnace operating costs for firing (fuel, electricity, maintenance).

    • Melting & Pouring Cost:

      • Melting equipment operating costs (electricity, fuel, crucibles, protective gases).

      • Labor cost (furnace operation).

    • Post-Processing Cost:

      • Shell Removal: Labor and equipment cost for vibratory descaling, shot/sand blasting.

      • Cut-Off: Cost to separate castings from the gating system (abrasive cutting, band saw, torch cutting).

      • Grinding/Finishing: Labor cost for removing gates/risers, flash, burrs, and surface dressing. Complexity and accessibility significantly impact labor time.

      • Heat Treatment: Annealing, normalizing, quenching, tempering, solution heat treatment, aging, etc. Cost depends on process requirements, equipment type, and energy consumption.

      • Welding/Repair: Cost for allowable defect repair (labor, material, inspection). Usually included as an estimated percentage.

    • Inspection & Testing Cost:

      • Visual inspection, dimensional checks (labor, gauges, CMM).

      • Non-destructive testing (X-ray, ultrasonic, penetrant, magnetic particle) equipment usage, consumables, and labor fees.

      • Physical/chemical testing fees (chemical analysis, mechanical testing, metallography).

      • Destructive testing (if required).

    • Packaging Cost: Packaging materials (wooden crates, cartons, foam, plastic bags) and labor cost.

  3. Management, Profit & Risk Cost:

    • Overhead: Allocation of company operating expenses (rent, utilities, management salaries, finance costs). Typically calculated as a percentage (e.g., 15%-30%) of manufacturing cost.

    • Profit Margin: Desired profit. Determined based on market competition, customer importance, project risk (e.g., 10%-30%).

    • Risk Contingency: Buffer for estimated scrap rates, raw material price fluctuations, rework risk (can be included in profit margin or overhead).

    • Taxes: Value Added Tax (VAT), etc.

    • Freight Cost: If the quote includes shipping.

  4. Quantity Factors:

    • Total Order Quantity: This is one of the most critical factors. Larger quantities reduce the amortized cost of one-time investments (e.g., tooling), increase production efficiency (lower unit labor/energy), and improve purchasing power (materials, consumables).

    • Batch Size: Quantity per shipment affects production scheduling and inventory costs.

  5. Technical Requirements & Complexity:

    • Dimensional Accuracy & Geometric Tolerances: Tighter requirements increase costs for die precision, shell building process, and process control.

    • Surface Roughness: Higher surface finish requirements may necessitate finer stucco, more slurry layers, or additional finishing (e.g., polishing), increasing cost.

    • Casting Geometry: Significant wall thickness variations, complex internal passages, thin/slender features, large flat areas increase difficulty (risk of distortion, cracks, filling issues), reduce yield, and raise scrap rates and finishing difficulty.

    • Material Special Requirements: E.g., high purity (vacuum melting), special heat treatment specifications increase costs.

    • Certification Requirements: Special industry certifications (e.g., NADCAP, ISO 13485, AS9100 for aerospace, medical, nuclear) imply stricter systems, personnel qualifications, process controls, and documentation, significantly increasing costs.

General Quoting Steps

  1. Understand RFQ Requirements in Detail:

    • Obtain clear, complete drawings (preferably with 3D model).

    • Clarify material specifications (grade, standard).

    • Confirm technical specifications (dimensional tolerances, geometric tolerances, surface roughness, weight requirements).

    • Define quality requirements and inspection standards (required NDT? Acceptance criteria? Physical/chemical property requirements?).

    • Confirm order quantity and delivery requirements (batches, lead time).

    • Specify packaging requirements.

    • Understand the end-use application (aids risk and technical assessment).

  2. Process Evaluation & Planning:

    • Analyze casting geometry for manufacturability (feasibility, potential challenges).

    • Determine preliminary process route (shell building method, cluster assembly design, gating/risering design).

    • Estimate casting gross weight and process yield rate.

    • Identify required post-processing steps (cut-off, grinding, heat treatment, inspection types).

    • Assess tooling needs and complexity.

  3. Itemized Cost Calculation:

    • Calculate material cost.

    • Estimate tooling cost and its amortization.

    • Estimate costs for wax pattern, shell building, dewaxing/firing, melting/pouring, post-processing, inspection (labor, equipment, energy, consumables).

    • Calculate packaging cost.

    • Summarize total direct manufacturing cost.

  4. Calculate Indirect Costs & Profit:

    • Add overhead allocation to the direct manufacturing cost.

    • Add the target profit margin.

    • Consider risk contingency (optional).

  5. Factor in Taxes & Freight:

    • Clarify if the quote is tax-inclusive (e.g., VAT).

    • Clarify if the quote includes freight.

  6. Generate Quotation:

    • Clearly list all cost items (e.g., Tooling Fee, Unit Price, Packaging Fee, Inspection Fees).

    • State the basis of quote (drawing revision, specification number).

    • State quote validity period (Crucial! Raw material prices fluctuate).

    • Specify Minimum Order Quantity (MOQ), payment terms, delivery lead time.

    • State key assumptions (e.g., estimated yield rate, scrap rate).

  7. Review & Confirm:

    • Internal review of cost calculation accuracy and reasonableness.

    • Adjust quote based on company strategy and customer relationship.

    • Send formal quotation to the customer.

Advice for Buyers

  • Provide as much detail as possible: Clear drawings/models, accurate technical requirements, target quantity range, desired lead time.

  • Understand the process: Knowing the pros/cons and cost drivers of investment casting helps set realistic requirements and evaluate quotes.

  • Focus on total cost, not just unit price: Consider tooling amortization, quality consistency, delivery reliability, supplier service.

  • Request Multiple Quotes & Compare: Ensure all suppliers quote based on identical, complete information.

  • Discuss manufacturability: Communicate with supplier engineers during RFQ for potential design optimizations; small changes can significantly reduce cost.

  • Define acceptance criteria clearly: Avoid disputes later due to differing interpretations.

Advice for Foundries

  • Thoroughly understand customer needs: Avoid misinterpreting technical requirements.

  • Calculate costs precisely: Especially material, yield rate, and labor time for complex operations. Underestimating costs is the root cause of losses.

  • Realistically assess capabilities: Do not take on projects beyond your technical or equipment capacity.

  • Provide clear, transparent quotes: Build trust by showing where the costs lie.

  • Manage quote validity and material price risk: Keep validity periods short during volatile markets, or consider price adjustment clauses.

  • Continuously optimize processes: Improving yield, reducing scrap, and increasing efficiency are fundamental to lowering costs and enhancing competitiveness.

Summary: Quoting for investment castings is a highly technical commercial activity requiring engineering knowledge (materials, processes), cost accounting skills, and business acumen. The key lies in accurately assessing the technical complexity and manufacturing difficulty of the casting itself, combined with the order quantity, and performing a detailed calculation of costs for materials, tooling, various processing steps, inspection, overhead, and profit. Clear communication and evaluation based on complete information are the foundation for reaching a fair quote.